Heathen..and truth seeker... I agree with you..
I think the new KING OF THE NORTH are the Islam Extremists.
are you watching world events unfold before your eyes?
iraq is receiving a liberation from ancient backward politics and a ruthless criminaly minded dictatorship.
boy geoge has stuck his foot in the middle east, to the amazement of virtually the entire planet.
Heathen..and truth seeker... I agree with you..
I think the new KING OF THE NORTH are the Islam Extremists.
i knew brothers who would not allow a television in thier house.
you were lucky if you were around any that listened to music.
we would jokingly among older ones talk of going out and pulling our earth wind & fire albums out and taking them for a spin.
When my kids were young, a really cool elder and wife would throw sock hops for all the kids to have fun at the gym in an elementary school....soon we had orders from the CO to stop them... that big gatherings were bad... after all someone might give someone a kiss in the hall!!!! Also the kids would dress like greasers and (imitate worldly people....) how wicked...Nobody had any big parties again...
a search for truth.
c. t. russell was born in the united states, in allegheny (now part of pittsburgh), pennsylvania, on february 16, 1852. he was the second son of joseph l. and ann eliza (birney) russell, who were presbyterians of scottish-irish descent.
charles mother died when he was only nine years old, but from an early age, charles was influenced by both of his religiously-minded parents.
I agree with you Heathen...I don't think Russell was the evil slave but the Wt turned into it. He wasn't perfect but I don't think he was evil..I think he had basic doctines in leaps and bounds over Christendom...and wasn't trying to exalt himself to be our damn boss over everything!
two important doctrine that the wts replaces with jesus with itself are;.
trying to indicate peter said to jesus "where would we go?
" rather than "whom would we go to" as stated in the scripture.
Hey there..I 'm thinking of the scripture....Jesus: I am the way and the truth and the life. Nobody comes to the father except thru me... ( the Wt adds and thru them..!! )
They also use the scripture in the Old T. .."10 men will hold on to the skirt of a Jew" to prove that they have to control every aspect of out LIFE. Uggh..
those are serious issues in the mind of any (future) xjw.. actually we're on an exceptional spot in life to ponder on the pitfalls of "loyalty" and the heartbreaking necessity of some "betrayal".. we can rationalise it by saying we are loyal to a higher instance (god, the "truth" or whatever).
yet the feeling (and sometimes guilt) of betrayal may be lingering in our minds.. may i remind those few lines from friedrich nietzsche (thus spake zarathustra):.
when zarathustra had spoken these words, he paused, like one who had not yet said his last word; and long did he balance the staff doubtfully in his hand.
Thanks N. It seems like Jesus said something about...like a seed, he had to die so as to be able to bear fruit. I can't seem to find the scripture. But I felt like I had to D'A myself to as to truly live....and be a superman. Living half in and half out is not being true to anyone..not to God or yourself. At least that's my feeling now.
i have been lurking for some time and only recently started to post if you have seen my posts, i have always represented myself as a loyal jw and one who is planning to stay in however, lately my faith and commitment as a jw has been tested and, without going into details, i am having problems of faith and life that i could really use some help on.
if so, you might ask, why dont i just leave?
well, i have a wife that is a very devout jw and she would be crushed and very upset if i quit she believes it all 100% and lives to worship the borg in fact, she would be very upset if she even knew i was visiting this site.
Hey there. I believe in the end what God is going to look for is an honest heart. I don't even think he's going to really care about the title of organization, we are in. My mother taught me to always do what you think is right, religiously, and let the chips fall where they may. Living a lie, I believe could be a detriment in your relationship with the big guy.
i recieve many pms, emails, and more recently, many thread replies which ask me a simple question.. why are you disassociating yourself?
why not just fade?.
well, here's why.. my mother, and her mother, are in the "truth".
I think like you..they forced me out. I was a witness for 26 years..full time pioneering..and left like a screeching halt. I recieved between 2 - 4 contacts, letters, card, phone calls, for 3 and 1/2 months...My unbelieving husband called it, the invasion of the body snatchers. I had to D'a myself to stop it. Feel good about your decision..and don't look back.
thus says the lord [yhwh], the king of israel,.
and his redeemer, the lord [yhwh] of hosts:.
besides me there is no god.. isaiah 44:6. how many persons are speaking in isaiah 44:6?
Sorry but I've been a witness for 26 years...dropped out and still trinitarians...irk me... JESUS IS NOT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
assume you were in one of those doubting moments, what would you really liked to have known?
what were the question you wanted to know but were afraid to ask?.
what questions, when answered well by a da/fader would have the biggest impact on opening the closed jw mind?
I was a pioneer..a man I called on, looked at me and asked..."how can you get around the fact that you are not doing anything to really help the world in a political way, such as antiwar activism, helping with the hungry etc." I never got over it.. now that I'm out, I will try.
an old jw friend just e-mailed this to me...
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Hey..I went to the silverdome for 25 years and went to Toledo last year..then promptly dropped out...Both places were uncomfortable. I would make my 3 children sit through all 4 days...Now only 3 days long. I won't be going if they put it across the street from me!!!!!